Family
Married/ Related to:  William Walweyn 1) 2)Son of Thomas Walweyn and Isabel Hatheway. Died ± 1445 4) Notes: Of Longford. This William Walweyn is not the same individual as the William Walweyn who married Joan Greyndour. Fundamentally, this is evidenced by them both having different heirs for properties attached with the same terms (e.g. Longford goes to John Walweyn, whereas the Greyndour inheritance goes to Alice). William Walweyn comes into ownership of the manor of Longford which is inherited by his descendants. A mullet on Willliam's coat of arms in Great Malvern suggest he was a third son - and hence why he did not inherit Much Marcle from his father. Child: 1. John Walweyn 5) 6) 7) 8) 9)Born between 1430 and 1440 Second son born in 1461 Residence: Longford, Herefordshire, England 5) 10) Notes: The Hereford visitation identifies John Walwyn of Longford's wife as Agnes Milbourne, co-heiress of Simon Milborne. The Worcester, Sussex and Gloucester visitations provide no wife for John. Almost all secondary sources have followed the Hereford Visitation in error. Agnes Milbourne, co-heiress of Simon Milborne married one Thomas Walwyn of Much Marcle, as opposed to John Walwyn. Various primary records at The National Archives make this clear - e.g. see C 43/2/22. Which means the Hereford visitation is incorrect. This leaves three potential alternatives: 1) John Walwyn was actually Thomas Walwyn who married Agnes Milbourne 2) John Walwyn did marry an Agness Milbourne, but she was the Agnes sister of Simon Milborne (as opposed to daughter) 3) John Walwyn's wife is unknown. Alternative one can be discounted through reviewing Thomas's will, proved 1532 (PROB 11/24/179), which makes bequests to all his children - and there is no Edward - nor is there any of the manors and land that this branch of the Walwyn family possessed. Alternative two can also be discounted on chronological grounds. John Walwyn's second son (Thomas) was born in 1461 (per his borther John's IPM). John's ninth son (Edward) was born between 1485 and 1533. Agnes, sister of Simon, was born c1420 - which is too early for her to be mother to John's children. On this basis, John's wife has been marked unknown. | |||
Joan WhitneySources
1) Source: Court of Common Pleas, General Eyres and Court of King's Bench: Feet of Fines Files, Richard I - Henry VII "The manor of Langeford' and 12 messuages, 600 acres of land, 120 acres of meadow, 100 acres of pasture, 40 acres of wood and 10 pounds of rent in Langeford', Lugwardyn', Lorteporte, Hampton' Ep'i, Boterley and Auynbury...John and John have granted to William and Joan the manor and tenements, and have rendered them to them in the court, to hold to William and Joan and the heirs begotten by William Walweyn' on the body of Joan, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, after the decease of William and Joan the manor and tenements shall remain to the right heirs of William Walweyn'." Dated: 1445. External Linkhttp://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_83_56.shtml. Reference: CP 25/1/83/56 (Data from secondary evidence)
2) Source: THE IDENTITY OF MARGARET, WIFE OF JOHN PARLES "In addition to the unreferenced statement by Burke, two other records support the identification of Joan Walwyn/Welford as a member of the Whitney family. The first of these is the Book of Baglan, a collection of pedigrees by John Williams, compiled in about 1600 – that is, some 150 years after Joan Walwyn/Weldon’s lifetime. These pedigrees (p.34) state that “Jaen (sic) Whitney ma[rried] Walwyn of Longford. Taken on its own, this late source would not be of great value. However, it is supported by a second, contemporary piece of evidence. This consists of a set of stained glass images across the county border in Worcestershire, in Great Malvern church (Chambers, 1817, p.40) which, though damaged, remain partially extant. Installed during the early part of the 15th century (Rushworth, 1936), they originally depicted “Willielmus Walwein et Jana uxor eius” [William Walwyn and Jane his wife].Above these were placed two heraldic shields, the first displaying the arms of Whitney (azure, a cross chequy or and sable), and the second showing Walwyn of Longford (gules, on a bend argent a mullet sable) impaling Whitney – ie, indicating that ‘Jane Walweyn’ was a Whitney by birth. Fragments of the images have been replaced in one of the clerestory lights in the north of the chancel – including the lady’s face – while the two sets of arms are still (December 2008) in situ in the south chanceltransept". External Link
https://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/foundations3/JN-03-02/108Parles.pdf. Reference: Page 110 (Data from secondary evidence)
3) Source: The History of Parliament Based on her older brother being born 1413.. External Link
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/whitney-sir-robert-ii-1443. Reference: WHITNEY, Sir Robert II (d.1443), of Whitney-on-Wye and Pencombe, Herefs. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
4) Source: Court of Common Pleas, General Eyres and Court of King's Bench: Feet of Fines Files, Richard I - Henry VII "The manor of Langeford' and 12 messuages, 600 acres of land, 120 acres of meadow, 100 acres of pasture, 40 acres of wood and 10 pounds of rent in Langeford', Lugwardyn', Lorteporte, Hampton' Ep'i, Boterley and Auynbury...John and John have granted to William and Joan the manor and tenements, and have rendered them to them in the court, to hold to William and Joan and the heirs begotten by William Walweyn' on the body of Joan, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, after the decease of William and Joan the manor and tenements shall remain to the right heirs of William Walweyn'." Dated: 1445 Settlement of the manor of Longford on or around William's death.. External Link
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_83_56.shtml. Reference: CP 25/1/83/56 (Data from direct source)
5) Source: The Visitation of the County of Worcester made in the year 1569 "Arms. - Gules, a bend ermine, in sinister chief a talbot or, within a bordure engrailed of the second, a mullet for difference.""Crest. - On a mural crown ... a wyvern with wings expanded vert pierced through the mouth with a broken javelin argent, a mullet for difference.""John Walwin of Langford in the county of Hereford descended of the howse of Sr Rich. Walwin." married to "..."Parents of:"Edward Walwin" married to "Peryn da. to ... Bruge of Hall Court in com. Hereford"Parents of:"John Walwyn of Codington in co. Hereford & now resident in County Worcester (City) 1569." married "Joyce da. to John Rudall of Rudall in co. Hereford."Parents of:"Robart Walwyn sonn & heire". Reference: Page 141; Walwin pedigree (Unreliable evidence or estimated data)
6) Source: Court of Chancery: Common Law Pleadings, Rolls Chapel Series "Parties: Sir William Compton knight and others feoffees of Simon Milborne deceased to the use of his heirs Subject: His heirs were his daughters, Elizabeth wife of John Whitington, Sibil wife of John Breynton, Ann wife of William Rudhale, Alisnor wife of John Mare, Agnes wife of Thomas Walweyn, Blanch widow of William Herbert knight, Alice widow of Henry Myles, Jane wife of Richard Cornwall, knight and Griffin Barton, son of his daughter Katherine, James Hyett, son of his daughter Joyce, and Anthony Bushoppe, son of his daughter Margaret Places: Tillington manor; Burghill manor; Almeley manor; Wellington manor; Munsley manor; Howton manor County: Heref"Dated: 1527. External Link
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3489692. Reference: C 43/2/22 (Questionable reliability of evidence)
7) Source: Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series I, Richard II "John Wallewen, of Longford, esquire...He died 5 January last, seised in fee of the under-mentioned manor and messuages &c. Thomas Wallewen, aged 44 years and more, is his brother and heir."Dated 1505. External Link
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/series2-vol3/pp124-158. Reference: C 142/20/19 (Questionable reliability of evidence)
8) Source: The visitations of the county of Sussex. Reference: Walwyn (Questionable reliability of evidence)
9) Source: The visitation of the county of Gloucester, taken in the year 1623 Walwyn (Questionable reliability of evidence)
10) Source: The visitation of Herefordshire made by Robert Cooke, Clarencieux, in 1569 "Arms: Walwyn. Gu. a bend with a bordure Erm, in chief a talbot passant Or., in chief a mullet for difference.Crest: Ditto. On a wall or part of a battlement masoned Sa. a wivern, wings expanded Vert. pierced through the mouth with a spear Sa. headed Arg. [a barred chest].""John Walwin of Longford in the County of Hereford, Esquier." married "Agnes d. and coh. of Simon Milbourne of Tillington."Parents of:"Edwarde of Coddington" married to "Peryn, d. of Bruge of Hull."Parents of:"John Walweyn of Coddington, 1569.". Reference: Page 69; Walwyn of Longford or Longworth Pedigree (Questionable reliability of evidence)