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‎1474 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England;

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Most children13
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man John Greyndour, Lord of Abbenhall, Knight‏‎ 1) 2) 3)
Born ‎± 1356‎ 4)
Died ‎11 Sep 1416 Probably in France.‎, approximately 60 years 2)
Election: Elected twice as MP for Herefordshire ‎between 1401 and Oct 1404 1)


Notes: Of Abenhall, Gloucestershire. Inherited the manor of Clearwell from his father. The Lordship of Abenhall was inherited through his mother.

"Sir John Greyndore was a notable soldier and an important figure in the government of the southern Welsh marches." [HoP] John was involved in the Kings' military campaigns fighting at the Battle of Shrewsbury, and abroad in France. Alongside he received a series of lucrative appointments, including Steward and Constable of Monmouth and the Three Castles.

John Grenydour held the wardship of Isabel, wife of Richard Beauchamp (Lord Abergavenny) [IPM]. He was granted the wardship (including marriage) of Isabel Blound (daughter of William Blount), April 4 1399. [CPR]

John held the manors of Abenhall and Mitcheldean and land in Chepstow in the March, English Bicknor, Newland in the forest of Dean, St Briavels and Awre per his IPM.

Married ‎before Apr 1392 1) (at least 24 years married)
to:

woman Isabel Unknown‏‎ 1) 5)


Notes: Isabel was sometime married to John Joce. She did not, however, bring the Joce manor of Newland to the Greyndour family; rather that manor came from John Greyndour's grandmother - Margaret Joce. At least if various secondary sources are to be believed.

While History of Parliament identifies Joan's mother as Isabel - a second wife of John Greyndour, the sources HoP provide are contradictory. The Gloucestershire visitation only identifies John's first wife and makes Joan a full sister of Robert. The second Harleian pedigree identifies both wives and makes them half-siblings.

The pedigree with the half-siblings construction has been preferred purely on the basis that it subjectively seems more accurate (e.g. it correctly shows John's two wives and it has more detail than the Visitation of Gloucestershire). Nonetheless, the lack of certainty around Joan's mother cannot be understated!

Child:

1.
woman Joan Greyndour‏ 3) 6)


Notes: Joan Greyndour was the sister or half-sister of Robert Greyndour who married Jane Barre. Eventually Joan became heiress to the Grenydour estates initially held by Robert Greyndour's descendants.

Joan remarried to William Lichfield following William's death.

Sources

1) Source: The History of Parliament . External Link
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/greyndore-sir-john-1356-1416. Reference: Greyndore, Sir John (c.1356-1416), of Abenhall, Glos. (Questionable reliability of evidence)
2) Source: Exchequer: King's Remembrancer: Escheators' Files, Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series I, Henry III to Richard III "John Greyndore, Knight...He died on 11 Sept. 1416. Robert his son is aged 30 years and more."Dated: 16 November 1416. External Link
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol20/pp207-219. Reference: E 149/107/10 (Data from direct source)
3) Source: Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series II, and other Inquisitions, Henry VII to Charles I "Joan Barre, widow...By their deed dated St. George’s day, 7 Hen. V, Thomas Sergeant and William Grey gave the under-mentioned manors of Clourewall, Noxton, and Nasse, to the said Robert Greindour, and Joan his wife, and the heirs male of their bodies, with remainder to his right heirs. He died without male issue, and Alice Beynam, aged 30 and more, now wife of Thomas Baynam, esq., is his cousin and heir, viz. daughter of William Walwyn, son of Joan, sister of the said Robert Greindour."Dated: 1485. External Link
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/series2-vol1/pp41-60. Reference: C 142/1/121 (Data from direct source)
4) Source: Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series I, Edward III "Margaret, late wife of Robert Huntele (Huntley)...She died on Sunday after Michaelmas last. John Greyndore, aged 19 years, her son by Laurence Greindore, her former husband, is her heir."Dated: 1375. External Link
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol14/pp129-143. Reference: C 135/245/7 (Data from secondary evidence)
5) Source: Calendar of the Patent Rolls Preserved in the Public Record Office "Licence for Joan, late the wife Robert Greyndour,esquire, to found a perpetual chantry in the parish church of All Saints, Neweland, in the forest of Dene, co. Gloucester...for the good estate of the said Joan and Reynold West, knight, lord la Warre, and Elizabeth his wife...and for the souls of the said Robert, John Greyndour, knight, his father, and Marion his mother, and of Isabel late John's wife, Thomas Rugge, esquire, the father, and Katharinehis wife, the mother of the said Joan, John Joce late husband of Isabel, Hawisia Bytton sometime the wife of John Bytton, knight, the elder, John Bytton, lnight, grandfather of the said Joan, Alice Sturye, John Sergeaunt, Edmund Forde and Joan his wife... "Dated: 6 November 1445. External Link
http://sdrc.lib.uiowa.edu/patentrolls/h6v4/body/Henry6vol4page0388.pdf. Reference: Henry VI, vol. 4, p. 388 (Data from direct source)
6) Source: The visitation of the county of Gloucester, taken in the year 1623. Reference: Baynham Pedigree; Pages 12-16 (Questionable reliability of evidence)