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Family


man William de Beauchamp‏, Alternative name: William de Bello Campo‎ 1)
Died ‎1170 2)

Notes: See William de Beauchamp (died 1197) for further details.

Married/ Related
to:

woman Avicia de Salewarp‏‎ 1)


Notes: See William de Beauchamp (died 1197) for further details.

Child:

1.
man William de Beauchamp‏, Alternative name: William de Bello Campo
Died ‎1197 3)

Notes: Identifying the two William de Beauchamps' wives with certainty is difficult. This reconstruction assigns Avicia de Salewarp to William the elder d. 1170 (1) and Bertha de Braose to William the younger d. 1197 (2). The rationale for this construction follows.

In favour:
Avicia de Salewarp is clearly identified as a mother of William de Beauchamp and wife of William de Beauchamp in the Westwood Cartulary. While the charter is undated, based on style it is likely to date from reign of King Henry II. If it does date from Henry II then Avicia must be the other of William (2).
An IPM for William de Beauchamp (died 1298) dated1305 concerning lands in Tetbury identifies that the de Braose family held Tetbury originally and that it came into the Beauchamp family through Bertha de Braose daughter of William de Broase.
"William de Breouse, long since deceased, who once held the manor of Tettebury together with the said rent and other tenements belonging to the said manor of the king in chief by service of a knight's fee, gave the said rent a hundred and sixty years and more past to William de Bello Campo, great grandfather of the said earl, and Berta, daughter of the said William de Brewose, in free marriage. Afterwards William de Breouse, kinsman and heir of the said William de Breouse, enfeoffed the said Peter de Breouse of the manor of Tettebury with the said earl's service of the said rent. "
Tetbury came into the de Braose family following the marriage of William de Braose with Maud of St Valery. Therefore, Bertha de Braose must be a daughter of that William (or a later William). If we accept that argument, from a chronological perspective that means Bertha can only have married William (2).
Walter de Beauchamp, a son of William de Beauchamp (grandson of William de Beauchamp (2)) required a licence to marry Alice de Tony as their marriage was in the fourth degree of consanguinity. Bertha de Braose marrying William de Beauchamp (2) is the best way of accounting for that consanguinity. There are no other explanations within their known ancestry.

The strongest arguments against this construction are that:
The 1305 IPM has the marriage between Bertha de Braose and William de Beauchamp occuring in the mid-twelth century (i.e. 160 years before 1298-1305). That cannot be the case if Bertha marries William (2). This argument can be dismissed relatively easy as a mistake by the jurors. While they likely would have remembered the broader story of how Tetbury came to the Beauchamps, they would have been much less likely to remember an exact date.
In 1198, an Amic de Broase appears in the pipe rolls arguing a case for Walter de Beauchamp (son of William d.1197). While not stated, the likeliest reason for Amic making the claim is that she was a close relative of Walter (possibly his mother) and he was under-age. However, it's certainly not impossible that Amic and Avicia are the same individual and that Avicia is Walter's grandmother. There are further records for Amice in 1198-1201 where she is described as widow of William de Beauchamp and father of William de Beauchamp. (Beauchamp Cartulary)
If we accept the above counter-argument and switch Bertha and Amicia, then that would mean... 1) Walter was born in 1198 at the latest. 2) Therefore William de Beauchamp (died 1197) and Avicia de Salewarp cannot have been born any later than, say, 1182. 3) Therefore William de Beauchamp (died 1170) and Bertha de Braose cannot have been born any later than say 1154. That's not possible if Bertha de Braose is a daughter of William de Braose and Maud of St Valery.

Now... there is one alternative, that would resolve all the above issues. That there's a William de Beauchamp, father of William (2) and son of William (1) and this William (1.5) marries an Amice... But, given that is a big change from the standard pedigree, it is not proposed here, for the moment. Until further evidence either way is found.

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All of this is further complicated by the discovery, by Doug Thompson (and posted on the soc.genealogy.medieval message group) of a previously unpublished fine, dated 1227, in the transcripts of the Sele Priority Charters at Magdalen College, Oxford, suggesting that Bertha de Braose married a Walter de Beauchamp!

The key line being: "‘Habenda et Tenenda ip[s]i Walt[er]o et h[ere]dib[us] suis ut lib[eru]m maritag[ium] p[ro] t[er]ra q[ua]m Will[elmu]s d[e] Breaus ...us suus dedit Berte filie sue in maritag[iu]m' ".

Sources

1) Source: Monasticon Anglicanum, a history of the abbies and other monasteries, hospitals, frieries and cathedral and collegiate churches... in England and Wales, also of all such Scotch, Irish and French monasteries... connected with religious houses in England "...Avicia domina de Salewarp, consensu et praecepto filii mei Willielmi de Bello Campo, antequam universae carnis viam ingrederetur... pro anima domini mei Willielmi de Bello Campo, et Willielmi filii mei..."Dated: Unclear. Probably during reign of Henry II based on sequencing.. External Link
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1336043/. Reference: Volume the Sixth, page 1004, Cartulary of Westwood, Charter 2 (Data from secondary evidence)
2) Source: Annales Monastici Vol. IV, Annales de Oseneia, Chronicon Thomæ Wykes, Annales de Wigornia "Anno MCLXX... Willelmus de Bello Campo obiit, et ad ostium capituli Wigorniae sepelitur". Reference: 382 (Data from secondary evidence)
3) Source: Annales Monastici Vol. IV, Annales de Oseneia, Chronicon Thomæ Wykes, Annales de Wigornia "Anno MCXCVII ... Willelmus Helyensis et W[illelmus] de B[ello] Campo obiit.". Reference: 389 (Data from secondary evidence)